well. they plate it, the different metals. it ends up being gold but before it gets to gold it gets all of these others, copper and silver. look at this, though, they also make these. these are the name plates. these go on at the governor's ball. this is for leo dicaprio. he hopes he wins it. there it is. >> ted rowlands, the birth of an oscar. guys, thank you very much. have to go. that was amazing. i'm brooke baldwin. see you back here tomorrow. now we go to washington. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. >> to kill or not to kill? i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." the world lead. he's described as a member of al qaeda, planning attacks on americans and the only thing keeping him from becoming a smouldering hole in the ground may be the fact that he was born in the country he's accused of plotting against. will the obama administration decide to take him out with a drone anyway. the politics lead. hillary clinton, why don't you tell us what you really think.

documents revealing what the 2016 presidential candidate reportedly said in candidate about monica lewinsky and her husband's infidelities. and the sports lead. he won the first gold medal in the sochi winter olympics. it was so hair-raising that shaun white said no thanks. how this snowboarder pulled it off with a trick he never even had tried before. good afternoon, everyone. welcome to "the lead," i'm jake tapper. we begin with the world lead. the public doesn't know his name nor the country in which he's hiding but the u.s. government seems to. the obama administration is struggling over whether to kill a man suspected of being a member of al qaeda, one who has planned attacks against americans. if this was happening just a year ago, the drone might already be in the air and we'd only hear about it after the fact, if ever. but this suspect is in america. not that the u.s. would not kill an american with a drone but the

administration tightened its own rules. last may. forced by factors such as "the new york times" report about president obama's secret kill list and rand paul's filibuster on drones last march. under the new policy, american suspects can only be killed by the military, not the cia, which has yet to hand over the drone program to the pentagon. but in the same may speech, when the president announced changes to the drone program, he talked about justification for killing american terrorists abroad. >> i do not believe it would be constitutional for the government to target and kill any u.s. citizen with a drone or with a shotgun without due process. but when a u.s. citizen goes abroad to wage war against america, his citizenship should no more serve as a shield than a sniper shooting down on an innocent crowd should be protected by a s.w.a.t. team. >> now, the president was not

speaking abstractly. he admitted for the first time publicly in his own words that he approved the 2011 drone killing of american-born cleric anwar al awlaki. now, awlaki is one of four americans that the white house has admitted to killing with drones. if you look at awlaki and say, who care, he was a terrorist, well, then, what about his 16-year-old son? also american-born, also killed by a separate 2011 drone strike in yemen. joining me is jeremy who has launched "the intercept." they have extensively covered edward snowden and the nsa and jeremy, as viewers know, has extensively covered drones. jeremy, good to see you. what are some possible countries where this american could be, countries that would not allow

u.s. military aspirations. >> well he or she may be in a country that does in fact allow some degree of u.s. military or paramilitary activities, could be pakistan where there is a two-sided relationship with the intelligence services there. it could also be yemen, iraq. it also could be a country a little bit off the map like mali or somalia. one thing that comes to mind is adam kudan who often appears in videos but we don't have all of the information right now. it really could be almost any of these countries where we've seen the u.s. conducting drone strikes after the past decade plus. >> i know that you have issues with the use of drones. president obama has said in the past that he doesn't support killing americans with drones theoretically but americans should not use their citizenship as a shield if they go abroad and take up arms against the

united states and its interests. if this american is a threat, and if this is theoretically the only way to neutralize the threat for want of a better term, should policy makers consider this? >> well, the president himself has laid out the threat should be imminent, capture is not feasible, and that the individual is known to be participating in active terrorist threats against the united states and in some of the cases where we've seen american citizens killed, it's unclear that that standard was met. a lot of times when these americans go abroad and take up residency with a jihadist group, they are basically used for propaganda purposes. so the real question here is, have these individuals taken up arms against the united states, are they engaged in an imminent threat and is the capture possible? my sense from covering this on the ground is that the u.s. does not go far enough in trying to apprehend these individuals. in some instances they don't

charge them with a crime. it's not whether the u.s. has a right to defend themselves as a nation because of course they do. it's the potential threat that they pose to the united states rather than the actual. >> do you have more of an issue with the use of drones when it's an american citizen as it is with an war al awlaki and his 16-year-old son? >> for me and the reason why in the film i made "dirty wars," i cover that case of anwar al awlaki and his son extensively is because how a nation treats its own citizens is how they will treat citizens of another nation. there are questions about constitutionality of denying an individual to respond to the allegations against them. how do you respond to a drone when you haven't in fact been

charged with a crime and to me that's a question that should be relevant to all americans and those on capitol hill. it's not been enough debate. ironically, most of the opposition from this has come from senator rand paul and other republicans rather than the democrats whose own party now holds the white house. speaking of drones, you and glenn greenwald talk about the nsa use of surveillance to get targets for drone strikes. you talk about the use of a s.i.m. card to track the terrorists. what are the issues with that? >> this is effectively what amounts to death by metadata. we're living in an area of precrime where we're using analysis of signals, intercepts of the activity that is registered on behalf of a s.i.m. card or a telephone handset. we don't have evidence that the individuals holding that handset are in fact the individuals that we're targeting. and so what is effectively

happening is instead of confirming that target x is in fact this individual that the u.s. is trying to kill, they are effectively killing the cell phones and this is a system that is rife with error and the u.s. has basically outsourced its human intelligence capacity and it's now relying in some cases 90% or more on the use of signals intelligence or military intelligence and that leaves an area for filling of phones not individuals. that's why we're seeing so many cases of civilian deaths, like the case of this wedding party that was killed a month or so ago in yemen. it very well could turn out to be that they had bag signal intelligence. >> jeremy, thank you for the information. i know you're en route to the oscar luncheon. best of luck to you as well. >> thank you, jake. it's a little surreal. coming up, a star nfl player

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. welcome back to "the lead." we have a great sports lead for you. a college football star not even drafted but he's poised to make history. michael sam, an all american defensive line man revealed the truth that has known for years. >> i came to tell the world that i'm a proud gay man. >> sam explained why he decided to go public with his sexuality

saying that he wanted to control how his story was told instead of having it leaked to someone in the media. the defensive player of the year is expected to get drafted from an nfl team which would make him the first openly gay man in the league. his announcement may not sit well with everyone but he revealed it to his teammates at missou a year ago. >> i came out to my teammates and they took it great. they rallied around me, supported me, and i couldn't ask for better teammates. hopefully players will see that they don't judge me because i'm gay. they see, hey, this person works hard. can he win us games? can he win us a championship? well, i can. >> following the interview, sam got a lot of support from some high-profile people both in and outside of the sports. first lady michelle obama and vice president biden called him

inspirational in tweets. joining me with more on michael sam is rich eisen. a few unnamed league executives are saying that they don't think the league is ready for an openly gay player and according to the cbs draft spots, he dropped 70 spots. could it be bad for him coming out? >> i don't know what the fallout would actually be, to be honest with you, jake. i don't know what metrics i guess the website that you're referring to used to drop him down any spots. i would hope that this is not an issue in the national football league where professional football players care about winning and losing and whether a teammate can help them win or not regardless of what they do or who they are or what their sexuality is. and for anybody who questions that, i know that there are some unnamed scouts or personnel

department individuals who think it may not work. all you have to do is look at a bunch of 18 to 23-year-olds at the university of missouri who knew fully what michael sam said, that he is a gay player, an openly gay proud man and they went 12-2, fifth ranked team in the nation and created an environment that michael sam could be the co-s.e.c. defensive player of the year. if it can work, it can work well at the professional level. >> one would think. but as you know, there's been a lot written about this in the last 12 to 24 hours and there are anonymous quotes you refer to and some people talking about how teams may not want to deal with the media circus that could come with having sam on the roster. you've talked to a lot of people, obviously, in the nfl, players, coaches, executives. you must hear some of that.

>> well, in terms of the media, the we are the media talking about the media right now. the bottom line is, you take a look at the news cycles, if you will. he'll be available maybe at a mini camp, a training camp depending on where he's drafted, where he might play in the national football league. i proffer to say that a seem can actually protect him from whatever media onslaught is suspected to come his way and it's really much to do about nothing. the question that i see on my twitter timeline, there are, of course, some people out there who have an issue with this, based on what they believe and clearly believe is a moral or a religious issue. but the bottom line is, most people want to know, can this guy play football? and if he can't, then why are we talking about him? and if a team drafts him, how will he fair for this team? i think that is essentially the bottom line issue that most fans

in 2014 care about. and it is just we in the media who are talking about something that is a first of its kind and will hopefully speed up the process where this is not a news story. >> i agree with you. the reaction was more shut up about it, who cares, as opposed to it's a sin, although there were some of those tweets. lastly, rich, obviously he's not the only gay person in the nfl. why -- this is a brave and courageous thing. i don't want to take that away from him. why is it so tough for gay players to come out. >> please, i'm not saying that about his decision to do this. >> of course not. >> because we understand what society is right now in 2014 and what this decision means in a sports world for sure. but to me, like i said, most players that i have spoken to and speak to, they want to know one thing. can he help us win?

and, two, is that what he's all going to be about? and that's what he has clearly expressed so far in the media avail bill teas that he has had. and i know for sure when nfl network broadcasts our combine coverage, which we're going to see michael sam on monday with the rest of the defensive line group, i don't think people are tuning in to hear my thoughts on diversity or our thoughts on freedom of expression or sexuality at all. they want to know, can this guy play the linebacker position or defensive line position and where will he be drafted? and i think that that is really going to be the predominant sense within whatever locker room that michael sam winds up in. >> rich eisen, thank you. appreciate it. >> you bet it? arriving from month cello, who will his dance partner be.

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our other sports lead today, the olympics. it's hard to imagine anybody is having more fun in sochi than the high-flying gold medalist sage kotsenburg and jamie anderson. each one earning top spot on the podium. kotsenburg says he just winged it to win it all for those uninitiated which may sound like a dire problem on an airline. but we sat down with sage kotsenburg. >> there's a ton of people, u.s., go america. i just looked at them and i'm like, what? i felt like we were family. you guys are here?

i don't even know you but thanks. >> reporter: you were the first person to win a gold medal at this entire olympics but you're not the hardcore athlete-type that we're used to seeing. i mean, your routine the night before your biggest day of competition, you didn't go work out or visualize your run or anything. what did do you? >> i was eating snacks watching the ceremony ceremony, chocolate, onion rings and chips and stuff. >> reporter: snacks? >> yes. that's the beauty of snowboarding. you don't have to be some mega athlete and work out all the time. >> reporter: i have to stop you about onion rings as well because you made one of my most f favorite photos, the olympic ring with your onion rings. >> is just made sense. >> reporter: you were in a hat and the language you've been dropping on twitter, most people

know what knarly means but -- >> spice, it's like, oh, you're spice or that trick was spicy, man. >> reporter: between the vocabulary and the hair, you have a lot of jeff comparisons going on. >> i've got a lot of that. >> reporter: you dig that? >> i'm down. i'm fully down. i think it's funny that people are comparing fast times at sochi. >> reporter: why is it important for to you march to your own beat? >> it's how i was raised, you know. i was never on a team, really, or had coaches growing up. it was just me and my brother and my friend snowboarding and we just did whatever we wanted to and that's how we learned all of the tricks that we do now. just march to my own tune. >> reporter: and you pushed your convenient in a uniquely new

way. you said, maybe i'll just try this trick i've never tried before, ever. this is the olympics. were you worried that you weren't going to be able to land it? did you think about that? >> i honestly didn't think about landing it or throwing it, really. >> reporter: most people plan what they are going to do in the olympics. >> yeah. that's the beauty of slopestyle snowboarding. you don't have to have a set-outrun. you can go and be creative with your whole run and get a medal. >> reporter: you want to show off the medal? >> yeah, i would love to. >> reporter: how does it taste? >> it doesn't taste that good, actually, news flash. >> pretty sweet. and here's what the l.a. times says about the conversation between sage and his brother. dude, you're at the olympics, what do you have to lose, blaze told his bro. why not? okay, i'm down with it. sage said. sick, blaze said.

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welcome back to "the lead." to paraphrase justin timberlake, they are bringing sex scandals back. republicans, that is. they are talking about the lewinsky scandal, which some of you may have only read about in history books. rand paul has been discussing the scandal. first, let's talk about the reporting done by the washington free beacon, a conservative newspaper which went through some archived documents belonging to a deceased friend of the clintons, one which the beacon writes "paint a complex portrait of hillary clinton

revealing her to be a loyal friend, devoted mother, and a cutthroat strategist." >> indeed, i did have a relationship with miss lewinsky that was not appropriate. >> reporter: we have the uncensored thoughts about monica lewinsky and they were not nice. the comments were made to one of her closest friends in the 1990s. diane blair kept extensive records of her conversations with the clintons, including the then first lady trying to explain why her husband strayed with monica lewinsky. "she thinks she was not smart enough, not free enough of her own concerns and struggles to realize the price he was paying," blair wrote. hillary asked to keep the president's actions with the quote, narcissistic loony toon"

in context. hillary allegedly told blair that the sexual contact monica had with her husband was not meaningful. after blair passed away in 2000, her notes were donated. other files caused controversy in 2008 when most were still under lock and key. there were earlier suggestions that the blair files would be available prior to the 2008 race. >> one of the most secretive administrations in history and at the same time that you're making a claim that this is the basis for your experience i think is a problem. >> quietly opened in 2010, the washington free beacon was the first one to dive in this week. among the paperwork, campaign advisers talking about the

clinton's image as they ready for the presidential race in 1992. >> i suppose i could have stayed home and baked cookies and tea but my husband was in public life. >> her strengths have made an impression. as one memo noted, voters generally liked clinton's intelligence and ten nasty but uncomfortable with these traits in a woman. she needs to project a softer side, some humor. fast forward to the white house in 1993. >> i actually made some of these. >> but clinton was not willing to make every compromise. on thanksgiving day 1996, blair recalled a phone conversation she had. i'm a proud woman. i know how to compromise. i have compromised. i gave up my name, got contact lenses, but i'm not going to try to be somebody i'm not. december 1993 diary recalls hillary complaining about women

upset about the incident surrounding bob packwood. clinton wrote, blair, was tired of all of those whiney women. and she needs him and i've been bonding with creeps and fabio lifted her off her feet. ah, the '90s. i want to bring if ryan lizza, cnn political correspondent and program director at the new america foundation and cnn political reporter peter hamby. ryan, these documents were hiding in plain sight at the university of arkansas. are people booking tickets down to arkansas? >> they should be because i think there is probably a lot more interesting information in here than the free beacon. they have opposition research. kudos to them for finding this.

i've been looking at the 40 pages that the free beacon posted and i think most people come away with a test. if you love hillary and you love that she's a fighter and tenacious and fights her enemies and wants other democrats to toughen up, you will find that in these documents. on the other hand, it will play into the stereotypes that the right has about her as well. >> what did you think, liza, when you listened to -- what struck me was hillary not justifying her husband's infidelity but trying to explain it to a good friend of hers. >> it does sound like rationalization and i would agree with you, ryan, she using the pain called pain threshold and how people have a pain threshold that is too low. it sounds like hers is pretty high, actually. but the comments about lewinsky do sound to me like rationalization. >> peter, you spent some time with rand paul. rand paul has made -- has talked a lot about hillary and bill.

here he is this weekend on c-span. >> anybody who wants to take money from bill clinton or have a fund-raiser has a lot of explaining to do. in fact, i think they should give the money back. you can't do it and take it from a guy who is using his position of authority to take advantage of young women in the workplace. >> now, i think it was bill clinton from whom i first heard the expression, if you see a turtle on top of a fence post, it didn't get there on its own. is this a coincidence that they are talking about lewinsky? >> not necessarily. i think rand paul has shown that it's a potent message. he's crept up in the republican primary polling which is no accident. look, i think what it does, also, is highlight the folly, frankly, of the clinton ally strategy of not really responding to these stories or

attacks on a day-to-day basis. they kind of say, she's a private citizen. there are people like rand paul, like america rise in the research group who are willing to flood the zone with hillary clinton stories on a daily basis and a lot of this take on this response to rand paul has been, this stuff is old news. in our news cycle now, nothing is old news. everything in here is really consumed, all of our media attention, even though some of the stuff is -- >> and i think, you know, some of it is, by definition, news. the fact that this archive is only recently been available and nobody has gone through it. i think it suggests that if she runs for president, we're going to be revisiting that era a lot more because now we finally have some of the papers, some of the real historical documents to tell the stories of the clinton years that haven't been available before and it's

couldn't p complicated records that could come out of the clinton administration. more and more of that is going to be available as we approach 2016. we're going to be doing more and more investigative journalism about those eight years. >> there is some take aways here that might be really resonate in 2016, including that memo that says americans are skeptical about the notion of co-presidency, getting two for one. i think those things flared in 20008 but i don't think it's going to go away. >> she talks about the fact that i'm just a cheerleader in this post. i can't do actual policy. if i had my druthers, i'd be shut up in a room doing policy. >> nothing is shocking, though. hillary clinton, i think most of

us know is all here, plus and minus. >> blair was going to write a book but i believe she died in the year 2000 and the papers are supposed to originally -- according to the university of arkansas, were supposed to come out in 2005, 2006. it took a few years behind that. i haven't gone into the documents but i would love to see papers about health care reform. i would love to see the stuff about when she went to china, she had the u.n. conference and there is probably stuff in here that doesn't only dredge up the more seeming side of things, i would think. >> yeah. although one consequence of having been in the public eye for so long, there is going to be this paper trail now. she's been in the public eye for more than 20 years and it's interesting to see this archiveable material. >> that's one thing that i think is, frankly, pretty sophisticated about what rand paul is doing and i think he's a completely underrated

politician. he's really talking about hillary clinton and we're focusing on the monica lewinsky stuff but he's raising the specter of the past when presidential elections tend to be about the future. look at the front page of cnn.com right now. it looks like 1998 all over again. >> websites didn't look like that back then. >> you're right about a gold mine for historians and obviously the sex scandals of the clinton years are the most salacious. but if you want to know what happened, having a contemporaneous diary is helpful. coming up, more changes to obamacare. some breaking news. the white house announces further delays to. so of the rules for employers. we'll have all of the details coming up next. let alone for under $300. but this asus with windows is lightweight and has everything they need -- not like chromebooks that can't install office or have to be connected to the internet to get much done. with this they can do homework, chat, play games --

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welcome back to "the lead." we have breaking news now. the obama administration announc announced delays to the employer mandate. let me bring in white house correspondent brianna keilar.

explain this delay. >> reporter: it's a delay, jake, to a key part of the law which says to american individuals that you have to get insurance. this says to companies, you have to provide it. so this was supposed to kick in this year and had already been delayed for a year and now employees who have 50 to 99 employees will have an extra year to put this in place. the employer mandate is kicking in in 2016 and for larger companies, they have more time to get their employees covered. they have to have 70% of their employees covered by 2015 and then by 2016, they have to have 95% covered. the idea here, jake, and we should also mention that 50 employees or less, that size, they are exempt from this. so this is giving more time both

to medium-size companies and to these larger companies, it gives them a little more time, although they will still adhere to 2015. >> i'm sure this delays the mandate until after the midterm elections. do we have any idea whether employers were pressuring the white house for this or there were political concerns as well. >> reporter: there certainly were political considerations. a lot of businesses were saying that this was a requirement that is tough for them. and this allows them to put off their requirement beyond the pivotal midterm election. president obama's goal is to ensure that democrats retain control of the senate. this takes out some of the gunpowder that the republicans would have but it's also, jake, another admission of the problems with the law. there have been a number of changes, delays, fumbles and

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welcome back to "the lead." north korea has rescinded an invitation for a u.s. ambassador to visit to discuss the future of kenneth bae who has been held there since november 2012. this is the second time that a visit has been canceled. no reason was given, though it's worth noting that north korea opposes the annual joint military exercises by the u.s. and south korean forces which will take place later this month. one american did get into north korea today, former u.s. ambassador to south korea donald greg arrived in pyongyang

although it's unclear the purpose of his trip. this came after news broke that kenneth bae had been moved from a prison hospital to a labor camp. in a video released by a pro-north korean he has a message for his family. >> to my family, just let them know that even though i am here but i am still continue on, i have not lost hope and have for the given up on anything. >> joining me is kenneth bae's sister terry chung and the reverend jesse jackson. thank you both for being here. terry, you just heard the message to you and the rest of your family. hearing his voice and seeing him in this video, can you tell us what that is like.

it must be horrific. >> it is. i am glad that he is holding strong but i'm really concerned about his health and the fact that he's been moved to the labor camp. you know, we're really discouraged by that. >> how does he look compared to previous times you've seen film of him? >> i think that he was looking better in the hospital three weeks ago. so it's a concern. but i'm hoping that he can come home soon. we're holding out hope for that. >> and the fa fact that he's now in this labor camp, do you have any sense whether it's permanent or -- >> every day we hold out hope that there is going to be some good dialogue between the two countries that will lead to kenneth's release soon. >> reverend jackson, you have done this before. you have worked to secure other americans being released from overseas. how did you get involved in this case? >> well, when he was first

sentenced, we wrote a letter at that time and we got no traction but than in the dennis rodman episode, it illuminated north korea in a very different way and kenneth bae so we then wrote to the north korean government again. also contacted the bae family because we need some communication with our own state department making these risk ventures. this time they said that they were processing my letter, though nothing had been a response. i held high hopes that ambassador king would go and have some impact and that was canceled so i wrote another letter to the president of north korea and i would like to meet with him face-to-face to seek to work out some mutual respect, some recognizing each other sovereignty, each other's will to peace. in the end, we must fight for unification and i hope that can happen. >> the state department was

asked about your offer to travel to try to save kenneth bae. here's what the deputy spokeswoman had to say. >> we support the efforts of course of the family but also of reverend jackson to bring kenneth bae home. >> have you been in touch with the state department? it sounds like they have supportive. >> well, i haven't because we want to be respectful of our government and the north korean government. at this time we're recycling the attention. we do the exercise and they do the missile threat and we must break that cycle of terror and fear and irritation and go another way. i have found that whenever there is a war between the u.s. and north korea and south korea, behind the walls is ignorance and fear and hatred and violence so i would hope that through some faith mission we would be able to break a hole in this wall and the beginning of mr. bae would be such a good thing

because whenever prisoners are released, it opens up some window of communication and communication is a key to the kingdom. >> and i normally might challenge you on some of the things that you just said but i know that you're trying to embark on a mission of reconciliation with the leaders of north korea and i don't think that would be constructive. terri, have you or the reverend jackson heard from any leaders of north korea specifically? >> we have not. we're thankful to reverend jackson for making the offer to go and take on this humanitarian mission. we're just waiting and hoping that there is a positive response with their approval that reverend jackson would be able to travel to seek his release. >> and terri, let's assume that kim jong-un or some of his employees are watching right now. what is the message you want to say to them?

>> we plead for mercy. we understand that under deep laws that kenneth bae has committed a crime. he has made an apology. our family has as well. he's served 15 months of his sentence. he's currently back in the labor camp. he has health problems and we just plead with you to let him go and come back to his family and grant him amnesty. >> jake, he has repented and has been contrite. now we hope for forgiveness and that be would the key. and it's not a political mission. we've talked to the a ambassador here but it's trying to slide through that door where there may be some possibility of a humanitarian plea. please, let kenneth bae come home. it could be an opportunity to break the cycle of fear. >> having dealt with leaders of kim jong-un before when you've tried to release americans held in situations like this, what works? what message works?

>> well, direct appeal, number one. and an attempt to appreciate the anxiety and what they want. often they want recognition of some sort. i remember when we got out of syria, and made the appeal at that time to president assad, we brought him back to the white house and president reagan said, what can i do for you, reverend jackson? call mr. assad and say thanks, which is not our policy. he called him, he said thanks and they never stopped talking. a break through of releasing in a prisoner camp can lend itself to peace. >> all right. reverend jackson, terri chung, thank you. i now turn you over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room." >> jake, thank you. happening now, an accused terrorist being captured. the dramatic pictures as the u.s. wages a separate attack that would put an american