catherine of can tell us more a back to joins us live lucy we haven't seen mr snowden for a while since the summer in fact but he did have plenty to say he certainly did andrew the n.s.a. was a whistleblower spoke passionately about the problem of government surveillance in the united states now he said that it wasn't about any specific spying program but rather. the relationship between people and the state a relationship which he described as increasingly coming into conflict with the democratic values now he also lashed out at government persecution of whistleblowers and i want to give our viewers a chance to listen to mr snowden in his own words let's play that clip because the more you know least you know where we. are exactly for sure it's on. my arms. but they will stop the. person. holding the. so very strong emotion there as you just saw this is the first of course video of mr snowden since he received asylum in russia the last time as you mention the world caught a glimpse of him was at the transit zone of moscow's sheremetyevo airport that was back on july twelfth now this ne

him but for sure this trip has been in the planning for quite some time there speculation that mr snowden senior finding to visit his son back in august but reportedly there were problems. in the united states with his visit he did legibly receive a russian visa but it's only happening now it's very unexpected too. and we're going to be asleep he is coming here to meet with his son we don't know yet whether it's going to happen later today a whole perhaps in the next few days and where it's going to be like you said edward snowden himself has been pretty much kept at an undisclosed location all we know is that he's in a safe place and he is going through this. troll graham all. the images ation sort of in russia now snowden himself became in the center also the global media spotlight. back in june when he arrived at should be made to airport in the transit zone of the jim sounds of controversial documents suggesting that the national security agency or united states has been spying on ordinary civilians and special worldwide so this story is once again peering into world headlines and wel

that along with snowden living in a sudanese writing it's doing to both movies the best with news all the truthfulness of good and he will find his latest book crazy media to say replied mr edward snowden see me i was the best conditions here while he's here in russia. and. they're stupid so it's a pretty use the good you can use when you call the district didn't. because you are new used in signing i don't use it so my bad relatives over and as you noted they also make sure i sat in the well designed to come right here in russia just because it was similar but not yet so probably they will try their best to make it possible one time mr coote arenas guest i'm very thankful for his hospitality and. i am going to follow mr q. trainers advice. that will determine where my day lege could you just explain to us why you can't just want to get to the specific circumstances it is good to be here . some of that's been discussed in the media and i really don't want to discuss that anymore my focus is to move forward. and to not not look back and discuss things that are of no value. to my future my son's future. just so it's not news if you're doing most of the year was supposed to

i must admit in my darker moments over the past several months i had also thought of nominating mr snowden but it was for a different list unquote now at the washington post panel discussion on cyber

holding the this is the first of course the video of mr snowden since he received asylum in russia the last time as you mention the world caught a glimpse of him was at the transit zone of moscow's sheremetyevo airport that was back on july twelfth now this new footage was taken in a secret location where mr snowden was actually given the sam adams award for integrity in intelligence that award it was presented to him by four former u.s. intelligence officials now our team was lucky enough to have those four in our studios on thursday for an in-depth discussion and now of course with this new video we're able to hear from mr snowden himself r.t. did have the opportunity to sit down exclusively with the wiki leaks founder at the ecuadorian embassy in london where he's still basically trapped in ins and some ways with no ability to leave now he said that he was concerned not so much for the safety of mr stone and but for the safety of those who have been helping him but more concerned in terms of prison people at risk please journalists sarah harrison as we know the guardian newspaper wa

so strong passionate feelings as you heard right there mr snowden did also say that he doesn't believe mass surveillance actually increases people safety a point of view that he thinks is growing more popular across the world now the organization lucy that provided us with those clips and we keep leaks and the man in charge of that june in the sun has also voiced concerns his name once he said he certainly has r.t. did have the opportunity to sit down exclusively with the wiki leaks founder julian assange this was at the ecuadorian embassy in london where he still held now mr saunders said that he was basically concerned not for mr snowden but for the safety of those who have been helping him and publishing his leaks let's take a listen to what he had to say. i'm more concerned in terms of prison people at risk. center harrison who was involved in killing it would start out of home spend thirty nine days with him more school report protecting him following petitions to be in russia. now she's from the u.k. because we know he got a newspaper that was rated grills part time for nine hour

conditions which he voiced in mid summer when the whole question of providing temporary asylum to mr snowden was being discussed and back then was going to police and said that snowden could stay in russia if he wanted but then he'd have to stop harming the image of the u.s. i also managed to ask. edward snowden's father a question i asked him what's he planning to do today this is his first day in russia let's listen to what he had to answer. last certainly believe in justice and in him the importance and the rights that are afforded by our constitution but the fact is. many of the questions you're asking it's best left to . know who represents my son in russia and my son and if it's some point in a future. date choose to have a press conference. the appropriate people present so be it i cannot speak for my son and really the legal issues father i don't want to really share my opinion at this point in time i'm shipley thankful that my son a shaved and free. father is being in the company. this is the lawyer who's been pretty much devising edward snowden and he's been his basically represent

quote i must admit in my darker moment over the past several months i'd also thought of nominating mr snowden but it was for a different list unquote now some journalists including a brandin from the hill blog have interpreted mr hayden's words to mean putting snowden on america's kill list joke or not many would argue that this is probably the worst time for any or any former current top u.s. official to speak sarcastically about snowed in why because journalist jeremy scahill and glenn greenwald are currently working together on a joint investigation on how the us national security agency has been involved in wider overseas assassination programs run by the obama administration both of these journalists are known for their hard hitting investigations of the u.s. government and their collaboration will reportedly they say reveal how the vast surveillance network of the n.s.a. operates in conjunction with clandestine operations run by u.s. military or the cia now for those who don't know the heart of prize that snowden is nominated for was established by the european parliament to honor indiv

clearly mr snowden is leaning on. this name a lawyer who's been representing and counseling his son edward here in russia he did to say that he's hoping to meet him but apparently even here right now doesn't know whether or not that will be possible not to mention the why and the where since the only thing we know about edward snowden is location is that he's somewhere in a safe area in a safe place in russia so this trip by it on snowden was several months in the making so why did it take him so long. son and father did. to come to moscow in august there's a lot of speculation over why that didn't happen including for security reasons just to remind you is the son edward snowden the former n.s.a. contractor arrives to be. transit zone also notable airports in june he's wanted in the us to thousands of documents providing details of how you are security services spy on officials and ordinary people all across the world he was granted temporary asylum by a russian officials but now as we've also heard from his father e

just minutes after landing i asked mr snowden what's the plan for his first ever visit to russia find out what he said in just a few moments. time edward snowden has received an award for integrity and intelligence from a group of fellow whistleblowers and activists we speak exclusively to them. you know the news that the libyan prime minister is freed after being kidnapped earlier by government contract and militia reportedly in revenge for his cooperation with the u.s. and. the news of the biggest terrorist. never grow. rich with a world renowned american intellectual numb chomsky talks to the nuclear middle east syria's chemical weapons and us drone wars. for its kevin i would hear all top story then today the father of n.s.a. will supply edward snowden is here in moscow hoping to see a son who remains in an undisclosed secure location under the protection of russia's temporary asylum or he can off snowden it should mention where port where the former cia contractor spent five weeks in diplomatic limbo. waiting for him right at the entrance to the v.a.b. a launch off the airport wh

this is of course speak first time that the war going to world has been able to catch a glimpse of mr snowden since he got asylum here in russia the last time we saw him was at the sheremetyevo airport transit zone back in july and while snowden himself may be safe and sound there have been questions about the fate of those who have worked with them and of course that is a worry that's been expressed by wiki leaks founder julian assange let's take a listen to what he had to say. i'm more concerned in terms of prison people at risk. sara harrison who's involved in getting. out of hong kong spent thirty nine days with him moscow airport protecting him for a week. and still be in russia. now she's from the u.k. as we know our guardian newspaper was ready to. move to turn in for nine hours on the counter terrorism act here without charge and a formal investigation form terrorism investigation has started up. relation to all those people so there you have it julian a son is describing a difficult political climate for whistleblowers and those who help them not only himself meanwhile we are told at

just minutes after landing i asked mr snowden what's the plan for his first ever visit to russia find out what he said in just a few moments. and in our other developing story this prime minister has reportedly been kidnapped by on demand in tripoli. also this hour seven days to default as america's biggest bring friendship the most vulnerable with hundreds of patients forced to wait for treatment until the government shutdown and. the horror of the biggest terrorist. never grows. and renowned american intellectual chomsky talks to us here about what's driving global politics on the controversial roll of the u.s. . news from russia underground the wall this is all she was me you know thanks for joining us and we start with breaking news this. the father of n.s.a. whistleblower edward snowden has arrived in moscow in the hope of seeing his son for the first time since russia granted him asylum edward snowden is staying at an undisclosed location reportedly under heavy security. was among the first to speak to long snowden about his plans during his first ever visit to russia. two waiti

just minutes after landing i asked mr snowden what's the plan for his first ever visit to russia find out what he said in just a few moments. and in our other developing story libya's prime minister has reportedly been kidnapped by armed men in tripoli and. four of the biggest killers in the world. never drive. which. renowned american intellectual chomsky talks about what's driving global politics and the controversial role of. news for russia and around the world this is us here with me here thanks for trying it and the father of n.s.a. whistleblower edward snowden is in moscow and hopes to see his son for the first time since russia granted him asylum snowden is staying at an undisclosed location reported it under heavy security and. was among the fastest speak so long snowden about his plans. waiting for him right at the entrance to the v.a.b. a launch off the airport where we're standing now this is his first time in russia of course i had to ask him what's the plan for the first the office visit i'm mr coote arena's guest and i am very thankful for his hospitality and. i am goin

has been caught lying still again to the american people i mean this is mr snowden is the gift that keeps on giving and we could see every time we can look back a few weeks ago i bought their line again to us ok i mean where is the trust element here because even if they even if we have these internet groups break themselves away or attempt to break away from the n.s.a. they have other ways of finding getting into data in any way will find another encryption process. there's a bunch of ways the data can be got out and i think one of the things that's really surprising about what the n.s.a. have tried to do is that they've tried to find every possible way of getting data and always be able to get any information all of the time and that's extraordinarily ambitious and it doesn't really seem necessary or proportionate i mean given that most of the data the we create on the internet is in companies like google and yahoo and facebook think that just by having caught a system where they could go and get the. when they really needed it you think that would cover most of what they really needed

has been caught lying still again to the american people i mean this is mr snowden is the gift that keeps on giving no because every time we can look back a few weeks ago i bought their line again to us ok i mean where is the trust element here because even if they even if we have these internet groups break themselves away or attempt to break away from the n.s.a. they have other ways of finding getting into data in any way will find another encryption process. there's a bunch of ways the data becomes a daughter and i think one of the things that is really surprising about what the n.s.a. have tried to do is that they've tried to find every possible way of getting data and always be able to get any information all of the time and that's extraordinarily ambitious and it doesn't really seem necessary or proportionate i mean given that most of the data the we create on the internet is in companies like to go and yahoo and facebook think that just by having caught a system where they could go and get the. when they really needed it you think that would cover most of what they really needed bu

just minutes after landing i asked mr snowden what's the plan for his first ever visit to russia find out what he said in just a few moments. libya's prime minister is reportedly released just a few hours after being kidnapped by a man in tripoli and also. the biggest terrorist in the world. never grow. rich with. american intellectual noam chomsky talks to us about what's driving global politics and the controversial role of the us. two pm thursday afternoon here in moscow a very good afternoon to you for me kevin and if you just joined us this is. the father of n.s.a. whistleblower edward snowden is in moscow and hopes to see is son for the first time since russia granted him asylum and snowden staying at undisclosed location reportedly under heavy security and. an office among the first to speak to long snowden about his plans. pool waiting for him right at the entrance to the v.a.b. a launch off the airport where we're standing now this is his first time in russia of course i had to ask him what's the plan for the first city office visit i mr coote arena's guest and i am very than

just minutes after landing i asked mr snowden what's the plan for his first ever visit to russia find out what he said in just a few moments. received an award for integrity and intelligence recruiter for the whistleblowers and activists spoke to them exclusively. in the days of the main news headlines the libyan prime minister appears on state television off for a brief kidnapping of this morning by a government contract militia reportedly in revenge over his cooperation with the u.s. and. iran. are the biggest terrorist. never grow. with the world are not american it's like for them chomsky talks to us about the middle east syria's chemical weapons and u.s. drone wars. for a good afternoon for me kevin owen if you just joined us five pm now here in moscow this is r.t. international law top story the father of n.s.a. whistleblower edward snowden is here in moscow hoping to see is son who remains in an undisclosed secure location under the protection of russians temporary asylum and he met long snowden at sheremetyevo airport with a former cia contractor spent five weeks in diplomatic

has been caught lying still again to the american people i mean this is mr snowden is the gift that keeps on giving every time we can look back a few weeks ago i brought their line again to us ok i mean where is the trust element here because even if they even if we have these internet groups break themselves away or attempt to break away from the n.s.a. they have other ways of finding getting into data in any way will find another encryption process. there's a bunch of ways the data can be got out and i think one of the things that's really surprising about what the n.s.a. have tried to do is that they've tried to find every possible way of getting data and always be able to get any information all of the time and that's extraordinarily ambitious and it doesn't really seem necessary or proportionate i mean given that most of the data the we create on the internet is in companies like google and yahoo and facebook you think that just by having caught a system where they could go and get the data when they really needed it you think that would cover most of what they really needed but they

has been caught lying still again to the american people i mean this is mr snowden is the gift that keeps on giving and we could see every time we can look back a few weeks ago but they're lying again to us ok i mean where is the trust element here because even if they even if we have these internet groups break themselves away or attempt to break away from the n.s.a. they have other ways of finding getting into data in any way they'll find another encryption process. there's a bunch of ways the data can be gotten and i think one of the things that's really surprising about what the n.s.a. have tried to do is that they've tried to find every possible way of getting data and always be able to get any information all of the time and that's extraordinarily ambitious and it doesn't really seem necessary or proportionate i mean given that most of the data the we create on the internet is in companies like google and yahoo and facebook you'd think that just by having caught by a system where they could go and get the. data when they really needed it you think that would cover most of what they

mr. snowden. >> they are gathering information as the delegation prepares to come to washington to meet withheir counter it ct the parts next week. the united states is committed to engaging by laterally. bilat. overall a tight-lipped officals. >> it's not just europe that has to worry about spying the u.s. government has wrapped up efforts to collect data from their own sit zins. citizens. every day day information gathered by 17 different u.s. intelligence agencies is collected and ry retained averad analyzed this is something that jasmine and issaac want stopped. so they are literally walking the halls of the u.s. congress meeting with any politician that will listen to their plea to put in place laws to stop domestic spying. >> for me this is obviously very person al. personal. working for the arab community it's the community that targeted by the post 9/11 and counter terrorismive eterrorism effort. they are va vacuuming up everybody's information an coping through it. it contradicts the pun fundments of our constitution. it's not just kept but it's stored. 20 to 30 years on the they th

mr. snowden? if you believe this can be done technologically to move the data and allow them to retain their data in rekeying get all the affirmation behalf -- which information why wait for legislation to require it? why not go to the fis a court order to say we will go to the communications providers with a selective and we have reason to believe it is connected to a plot? why not to tell the country we hear you we make this restructuring we can get the information we need in a way that is more protective of the privacy concerns that have been raised. >> the issue working there to be sure i answer this exactly right to buy right now we have to have the stain to zero -- a change in statutes i believe with the service providers that is where you come we could not get them to keep the data the courts could not do that as i understand it. >> correct. no statutory requirement to keep it for the length of time that we looked at either three or five years at is a separate piece of legislation to give u

mr. snowden. >> there is a certain business as usual aspect are saying.ay carney of the white house saying the u.s. gathers foreign intelligence, gathered by all nations, and again a spokeswoman here said they will speak engaged by rally with anyone who wants to talk with them and they're reviewing procedures when it comes to the communication of these world leaders. >> mike viqueira for us at the white house. thank you. the issue of illegal migrants, well, where shall we go? all right, the issue of illegal migrants was over shadowed by u.s. spying allegations at the e.u. summit. leaders there decided to put off any major action that deals with the flood of illegal migrants from africa to europe until disease. meanwhile the italian navy said it rescued 700 migrants at sea today. the navy released this video of one of two operations and it happened thursday in the waters off lampedusa. it shows the 318 people who had been aboard, the boat intercepted 60 myles from the coast and they were transferred to a navy ship to undergo a security check. most of them

mr. snowden fled to hong kong and then to russia to escape aarges that he uncovered surveillance programt the national security agency. mr. snowden granted asylum in russia in august after being stuck at the moscow airport for more than a month. his whereabouts and russia remain up secret. a senate committee will investigate the shooting at the washington navy yard's this morning. today's hearing is to investigate whether background checks are adequate. areomes as officials analyzing how defense contractor aaron alexis was able to have a secret clearance despite a series of violent outbursts, repeated russia's with the law, and concerns about his mental health. live coverage of the hearing at 10:00 a.m. eastern time. spancan see that here on c- or listen on c-span radio. these are the latest headlines on c-span radio. was officiallyg my grandmother's white house were trip. lady bird johnson went looking for portraits of the first ladies to hang in the white house. she thought that was important. she looked high and low and she official find her portrait. she called and said, mrs. truman,

just minutes after landing i asked mr snowden what's the plan for his first ever visit to russia find out what he said in just a few moments. beyond an hour off a developing story maybe as prime minister has reportedly been kidnapped by armed men in tripoli and. it is the horror of the biggest terrorist in the world. never drove the.

mr. snowden has effectively done and what some newspapers are assisting him in doing, and that is going to make at it lot more difficult to keep our countries and our people safe. >> mike viqueira joins us now live from the white house with more on how the white house is dealing with these spying allegations. >> well, they are being relatively tight lipped here. the spokesperson saying the obama administration is committed to engaging bilaterally. yesterday jay carney, reiterating time and time again all of these are being discussed through the appropriate channels. there is no question this is an embarrassing situation for the obama administration. >> reporter: the controversy is growing and so is the riff with a close ally. angela merkel expressing outrage. >> translator: with regards to the national security agency, i have made it clear to the person president that spying between friends is unacceptable. i said that in june in berlin, july, and yesterday in a phone call. it's about the privatesy among all german people. >> reporter: jay carney did not deny the spying had taken place. >>

quote i must admit in my darker moment over the past several months i'd also thought of nominating mr snowden but it was for a different list unquote some journalists including brendan sasso from the hill blog have interpreted mr hayden's words to mean putting snowden on america's kill list now general hayden confirmed to me that the quote is correct but he claims that his words have been misinterpreted and he never proposed for snowden to be put on any assassination list but some would argue that this is probably the worst time for any former or current top u.s. official to even speak sarcastically about putting snowden on a list and that's because journalists jeremy scahill and glenn greenwald are currently working together on a joint investigation on how the u.s. national security agency has been involved in the wider overseas assassination program run by the obama administration now both of these journalists are known for their hard hitting investigations of the u.s. government and their collaboration will reportedly reveal how they say the vast surveillance network of the n.s.a. operates

mr. snowden has effectively done and what some newspapers are assisting him in doing, and that is going toake it a lot more difficult to keep our countries and our people safe. >> now the spokesman here says the united states is reviewing procedures with its intelligence community to try to address some of these concerns, and in response to the call from angela merkel and other european leaders, they will simply say that the u.s. is committed to engaging bilaterally. dell. >> mike, the government shutdown has everybody outraged. with regards to this latest spy allegation is it the talk of the town or the official echelon? >> more or less the official echelon, good phrase. and what you hear from them is this is business as usual. and some of the outrage and expressions of disbelief is for domest domestic consumption. many people believe a lot of this is being overblown, and a lot of people believe, like chief keith alexander yesterday firing back at edward snowden. >> mike, thank you very much. >>> the fallout from the spying allegations is already taking place. important trade talks betwee

mr. snowden's statements have proven to be completely true in every instance. i have never once seen him lie to me about anything. i know that he has protect it the data he has with extreme levels of encryption that not the nsa can crack and even risked his life to go to the russians and help them surveilled. ,> but he has been to china hong kong, russia now. you can't be sure he has not had to give up something. >> you pointed out various to lay just a few minutes ago that no one can prove a negative, so if you are looking for me to prove to you they do not have any data, i can do that. what i can do is tell you all the evidence we actually know makes it ludicrous to the think -- to think they have not obtained any of that data. there is zero evidence in any responsible journalist would refrain from suggesting that happened when they have no evidence that it did. >> thank you very much indeed. now, let's discuss this further with pauline neville jones, former chair of the joint intelligence committee. shouldn't we have been told about all of this stuff anyway?

mr. snowden has put out. >> in crawlly, you served in the state department is it possible that the white house didn't necessarily know what the nsa is doing with their collecting and whether or not they're spying on world leaders? >> it's absolutely like i he didn't know. the president said he didn't know. the president provides strategic guidance but the tactical decisions of how you go about getting the information that leaders know, that's done at lower levels. it's a good question of how much knowledge there was within the white house, but i don't think this is the kind of decision that you're going to bring into the oval office. >> thank you so much for talking with us. we'll take a break. when we come back we'll change topics and talk about life and legacy of rock-n-roll famer lou reed, who passed away at the age >> while you were asleep, news was happening. >> here are the stories we're following. >> find out what happened and what to expect. >> international outrage. >> a day of political posturing. >> every morning from 6 to 10am al jazeera america brings you more us and global

thursday this is of course the first time that the ward a world has been able to catch a glimpse of mr snowden since he got asylum here in russia the last time we saw him was at the sheremetyevo airport transit zone back in july and while snowden himself may be safe and sound there have been questions about the fate of those who have worked with them and of course that is a worry that's been expressed by wiki leaks founder julian assange on more police in terms of prison people at risk. for several hours as we know our guardian newspaper was rated grills part of the time for nine hours and the formal investigation before the terrorism investigation has started up so there you have it julian a songe describing a difficult political climate for whistleblowers and those who helped them it's not a man himself meanwhile we are told at least has no regrets about what he did and believes that it was the right decision. now a worldwide rally against genetically modified food giant monsanto is being held across the globe activists are protesting the use of potentially harmful chemicals in food producti